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Post by Soviet on 21st January 2012, 10:03 am

As I do consider myself a Marxist-Leninist, such as Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, I thought I'd speak about what I consider to be the make-up of a true, pure communist. I'm only going to outline the basics.

A true, pure communist should be a Marxist, completely egalitarian Libertarian Left-wing Practitioner, who has read both the Communist Manifesto and each volume of Das Kapital, and thereafter any relevant modern communist/Marxist textbook and must fully and completely understand the ideology (regardless of whether or not they support every single sentence). This person must hold no chains of materialism (property), consumerism (greed) conformity or any false or biased knowledge. This person must promote diversity and individualism, free unbiased educational instruction for all, and who supports constant reformism and revisionism of the economy and industry, while still supporting worker's revolution, must advocate for the removal of the state (bourgeoisie) as the supreme power and the common ownership/control of the means of production (proletariat). They must support the creation of a Free Market and Free Trade, public "Latifundia" and complete, economic globalisation (workers of the world, unite!). They must be anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, anti-colonialist, anti-nationalist and anti-corporatist and must be a complete Libertarian, and neither Authoritarian or otherwise Elitist. They must ignore any seduction of opportunism, wealth or power and put the interests of the People and the Common Man above monopoly. They must understand why redistribution of wealth is a good thing from the top to the bottom and why the statement "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" is the correct way to run tax systems. They must not think of communism as a utopian ideal. And this is critical: They must understand that not the U.S.S.R., not China, not Vietnam, not D.P.R.K., not Cuba, not anywhere in the globe has their been a true, pure communist country, and things such as Nomenklatura and the New Socialist Man are fascist, ego-maniacal designs, and must never be allowed.


I think that these are the basics in outlining the true, pure communist. Criticisms? Opinions? Thoughts?


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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Comrade Vince on 21st January 2012, 2:32 pm

Heh, it's kinda finny, because, besides reading the volumes of Das Kapital, it pretty much sums me up, man.

Although I do feel attached to some material things, mainly my computer and some of the things I inherited from my father. But I get the feeling that materialism is something different from simply liking a few objects in your surroundings. I mean, those things could be deemed necessities, no?
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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Soviet on 21st January 2012, 2:42 pm

Comrade Vince wrote:Heh, it's kinda finny, because, besides reading the volumes of Das Kapital, it pretty much sums me up, man.

Although I do feel attached to some material things, mainly my computer and some of the things I inherited from my father. But I get the feeling that materialism is something different from simply liking a few objects in your surroundings. I mean, those things could be deemed necessities, no?

Being attached to necessities are not considered a part of materialism; food, water, love, friendship, the sun, pleasure (entertainment).

Materialism is the philosophy of putting any material objects above your moral, or putting matter above energy, which is specifically unhealthy, correct? With, of course, the acceptance of matter that contributes to the healthy generation of conscious energy. So, thinking that a playing on a computer is more important than trying to do good in the world, or attempting to contribute in any meaningful way is materialist.

Is that a clear explanation?

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Comrade Vince on 21st January 2012, 2:44 pm

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Comrade Vince wrote:Heh, it's kinda finny, because, besides reading the volumes of Das Kapital, it pretty much sums me up, man.

Although I do feel attached to some material things, mainly my computer and some of the things I inherited from my father. But I get the feeling that materialism is something different from simply liking a few objects in your surroundings. I mean, those things could be deemed necessities, no?

Being attached to necessities are not considered a part of materialism; food, water, love, friendship, the sun, pleasure (entertainment).

Materialism is the philosophy of putting any material objects above your moral, or putting matter above energy, which is specifically unhealthy, correct? With, of course, the acceptance of matter that contributes to the healthy generation of conscious energy. So, thinking that a playing on a computer is more important than trying to do good in the world, or attempting to contribute in any meaningful way is materialist.

Is that a clear explanation?

Sounds fair, I suppose. I mean, I lack the assets to do much good at the moment besides spreading awareness of the radical left. Which I've done quite well, actually.
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Post by IvanGray on 21st January 2012, 3:37 pm

Atheistic Buddhism. That my friend, is true communism.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Soviet on 21st January 2012, 4:12 pm

IvanGray wrote:Atheistic Buddhism. That my friend, is true communism.

Atheistic Buddhism is not a socio-economic system. The purpose of Buddhism is to "pacify" the peasants, so that they won't revolt -- a ploy for the Indian gentry to justify such crippling poverty. And Siddhārtha, the Supreme Buddha, was a pretty rich bourgeoisie. A communist does not need "religious" compositions, atheist or otherwise.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by IvanGray on 22nd January 2012, 6:23 am

Soviet wrote:
IvanGray wrote:Atheistic Buddhism. That my friend, is true communism.

Atheistic Buddhism is not a socio-economic system. The purpose of Buddhism is to "pacify" the peasants, so that they won't revolt -- a ploy for the Indian gentry to justify such crippling poverty. And Siddhārtha, the Supreme Buddha, was a pretty rich bourgeoisie. A communist does not need "religious" compositions, atheist or otherwise.

Atheism wouldn't be a religious composition :P and as soon as you make Buddhism secular, it is merely a philosophy based on universal good and harmony, as seems to commonly be the ideological goal of Communism; liberation, and being good to your fellow man.

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Post by Soviet on 22nd January 2012, 6:37 am

IvanGray wrote:Atheism wouldn't be a religious composition :P and as soon as you make Buddhism secular, it is merely a philosophy based on universal good and harmony, as seems to commonly be the ideological goal of Communism; liberation, and being good to your fellow man.

Communism is a socio-economic political ideology, not a philosophy. They could go hand in hand, yet I am explaining the true communis[t], not true communis[m]. And religion does not have to be led by a God. Religion is a collection of belief systems and views which creates a relation between humanity and spirituality. Atheism is not a religious composition, but any form of Buddhism is, because while Atheists choose not to hold a belief system relating humanity to spirituality, Atheist Buddhists do.

Soviet wrote:A communist does not need "religious" compositions, atheist or otherwise.

When I wrote this, I meant that a true communist does not need Buddhism or Atheist Buddism, or any belief system relating humanity to spirituality, led by God or otherwise. Religion is the opium of the masses. In fact, a communist should be a moralist and a moral nihilist. And I'm not talking about the homophobic view that Stalinist supporters hold, I mean they should understand that moral values are more important that material values.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Comrade Chernov on 22nd January 2012, 7:09 am

1. No moral or spiritual ties with any deities whatsoever. Belief in a deity and their lessons and teachings makes one more likely to feel uneasy when confronted by one who has different beliefs, if not outright hostile to them. Religion has been the cause of countless wars, conflicts, and deaths, has caused the rise and fall of mighty empires, and has allowed cruel, relentless rulers to come to power based on a "God-given right to rule".

2. A lower class, preferably rural, background. This will teach them the value of hard work for as much enjoyment out of life as possible, as well as allowing them to take pride in such virtues when they are an adult. Also, it will keep them in physical fitness due to the labor they do.

3. Obviously, to have read and agree with Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto.

4. Good morals. Seeing everyone as equal, no matter their color, gender, beliefs, height, physical features, mental issues, sexual orientation, etc.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Soviet on 22nd January 2012, 7:39 am

Well said, Chernov.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Comrade Vince on 22nd January 2012, 8:12 am

IvanGray wrote:
Soviet wrote:

Atheistic Buddhism is not a socio-economic system. The purpose of Buddhism is to "pacify" the peasants, so that they won't revolt -- a ploy for the Indian gentry to justify such crippling poverty. And Siddhārtha, the Supreme Buddha, was a pretty rich bourgeoisie. A communist does not need "religious" compositions, atheist or otherwise.

Atheism wouldn't be a religious composition :P and as soon as you make Buddhism secular, it is merely a philosophy based on universal good and harmony, as seems to commonly be the ideological goal of Communism; liberation, and being good to your fellow man.

Look up the principals of Bodhisattvas and Nirvana. Buddhists thinks they're both a heaven and a hell. Only: Their devil rehabilitates prisoners rather than torturing them. So, even though they're a bunch of superstitious lunatics: At least they're sympathetic superstitious lunatics.

But point being: Buddhism is not atheistic, because it does involve several supernatural deities.
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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Comrade Chernov on 22nd January 2012, 8:52 am

Soviet wrote:Well said, Chernov.

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Re: What makes a true communist in your eyes?

Post by Aidan "AwesomePants" on 5th February 2012, 8:31 am

I haven't read Das Kapitel yet (but I plan to), but I have read the Communist Manifesto, plus some other books on Communism, and I still consider myself a Communist.

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